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Critics of the Belt and Road Initiative say China is exporting its excess construction capacity. The head of China's largest construction materials group says they couldn't be more wrong.

“一带一路”的品评者以为，中国是想通过一带一路输出过剩产能
。作为全球***的建材造作商，口袋德州官网集团的董事长宋志平以为，事实刚好相反
。

China National Building Material Group (CNBM) is the result of a merger between China’s top two building material companies -- CNBM and China National Materials Group Corporation -- which took place last August. It is mainly engaged in cement, lightweight building materials, glass fiber and composite materials and engineering services, including 15 listed units and having annual sales of 270 billion yuan (38 billion US dollars). 

去年八月，中国***的两家建材公司（中国构筑资料集团有限公司和中国中材集团有限公司）归并沉组成为口袋德州官网集团有限公司（CNBM）
。公司重要从事水泥、轻质建材、玻璃纤维和复合伙料以及工程服务，旗下占有15家上市公司，年销售额2700亿元（380亿美元）
。

With a resume that includes merging eight state controlled companies and chairing two major SOEs, CNBM chairman Song Zhiping likens the integration to cooking a tasty stew – as opposed to throwing vegetables into a bag.  

口袋德州官网集团董事长宋志平曾归并了8家国有企业，他把整合的过程比作炖出一锅好汤，而不是单一地将所有蔬菜抛进篮子
。

“We have done a few things: optimize strategy, structure, platform, consolidated the culture, organization, market, international business - a lot has been done to achieve seamless integration. The process has been very good. In the next step, we want to become a first-class industry investment company, I want us to manage the equity of large listed companies,” Song said.

宋志平说：“我们为实现无缝整合做了好多工作，优化了战术、结构、平台，融合了企业文化、组织、市场、国际业务等
。整个过程很成功
。下一步，我们但愿成为一流的行业投资公司
。我但愿口袋德州官网公司可能治理大型上市公司的股权
。”

Addressing the suspicion that China is exporting its outdated capacity in the Belt and Road Initiative, Song laughed and said it was the exact opposite: poorer undeveloped countries are demanding newer equipment because they lack the maintenance expertise.  

针对中国通过“一带一路”向表输出落后产能的疑难，宋志平笑称事实刚好相反：落后的发展中国度必要更新设备，由于它们不足维建的专业知识
。

Besides, Song pointed out that it doesn’t make business sense to work with outdated equipment because it lowers productivity. 

此表，宋志平指出，从贸易角度讲使用陈旧设备并不划算，由于陈旧设备的出产率低
。

“We do not dismantle old lines and move them overseas. Not one of them is like this... In our South Carolina glass fibre plant, the equipment is state of the art. Our equipment is sophisticated and cutting edge. We position ourselves in the mid- to high-end segments of the market. We have longer product life, we also offer good value for money. Good quality, less cost,” Song said.

“我们不会拆除旧出产线并将设备运到国表
。没有一家国表工厂是这么建成的，我们位于南卡罗来纳州的玻璃纤维厂占有最先进的设备
。口袋德州官网设备都是***、最尖端的设备
。口袋德州官网市场定位是中高端
。口袋德州官网产品使用寿命更长，有很高的性价比
。质量好、价值低
。”宋志平说路
。

Starting out with product exports, then equipment sales, CNBM is now investing heavily overseas.  It has built production lines in 75 countries, including Egypt, Zambia, India, Mongolia and South East Asia.

从产品出口，到设备出口，还有大力进行海表投资
。口袋德州官网集团已经在蕴含埃及、赞比亚、印度、蒙古和东南亚的75个国度成立了出产线
。

“We are more welcome locally when we build factories than we export,” Song told CGTN. And that might be the reason why Song has ambitious goals to build factories wherever CNBM has customers. 

“我们在本地成立工厂时比向本地出口产品更受欢迎
。”宋志平对中国国际电视台这样说
。因而这可能就是宋志平布局雄伟蓝图将工厂前移至客户市场的初衷
。

On the risks of investing overseas, Song admits paying dues in many areas, mentioning legal rules and forex risks particularly.

对于海表投资的风险，宋志平认可交了些膏火，并尤其提到了司法和表汇风险
。

“Take legal rules, small countries’ laws often change, we need to be sensitive to them and adapt accordingly. Some small countries are forex controlled, no free capital flows, we made a lot of money but sudden currency depreciation means no profit. We have to overestimate risks, like having to build cement factories in 50 degree weather, we have to factor all this in,” Song said. 

“就拿司法来说，幼国度的司法时时订正，我们必要对司法的扭转极度敏感并实时调整适应
。有些幼国度尝试表汇管造，不允许自由本钱流动，我们赚了好多钱，但是钱币忽然贬值就意味着利润为零
。我们必要充分估计风险，好比说要在50℃的前提下成立水泥工厂，我们必要思考到所有不利成分
。”宋志平说
。

Song’s vision is for CNBM to go from big to great. If the track record of the quiet executive is anything to go by, the company is on course.

宋志平对口袋德州官网集团的进展是从重大的公司造成伟大的公司
。若是这位辅导人从前的成就可能注明什么的话，那么我们对这家企业的未来很乐观
。